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Este un subiect asupra caruia Trump a fost evaziv pina acum, ceea ce a generat ingrijorare in rindul statelor NATO. Luna trecuta, in cadrul unei reuniuni care a avut loc la Bruxelles, presedintele american nu a confirmat angajamentul SUA fata de Articolul 5.
"Angajez Statele Unite in privinta articolului 5. Cu siguranta suntem acolo ca sa protejam", a spus el, intrebat de ziarista Ramona Avramescu de la TVR 1 cum vede ingrijorarile tarilor din flancul estic legate de actiunile Rusiei si daca SUA va actiona potrivit articolului 5 in cazul in care o tara NATO va fi victima unei agresiuni.
"Este unul dintre motivele pentru care doresc sa ne asiguram ca avem o forta foarte, foarte puternica, platind sumele necesare pentru a avea acesta forta", a adaugat Donald Trump.
Articolul 5 din Tratatul NATO prevede ca : "Partile convin ca un atac armat impotriva uneia sau mai multora dintre ele, in Europa sau in America de Nord, va fi considerat un atac impotriva tuturor si, in consecinta, sunt de acord ca, daca are loc asemenea atac armat, fiecare dintre ele, in exercitarea dreptului la auto-aparare individuala sau colectiva recunoscut prin Articolul 51 din Carta Naiunilor Unite, va sprijini Partea sau Parile atacate prin efectuarea imediata, individual sau de comun acord cu celelalte Parti, a oricarei aciuni pe care o considera necesara, inclusiv folosirea forei armate, pentru restabilirea si meninerea securitatii zonei nord-atlantice".
Transcrierea declarației de presă, în limba engleză:
President of the United States of America, Mr. Donald Trump: Thank you very much! President Iohannis, thank you for being here! It’s an honor to welcome such a good friend of America to the White House. As you know the people of Romania and America share much in common – a love of freedom, proud cultures, rich traditions and a vast landscape to call home. The relation between our countries stretches back well over a century, but today we celebrate the Strategic Partnership that began 20 years ago. That partnership covers many dimensions, including economic, military and cultural ties. And today we are making those ties even stronger. Mr. President, your visit comes at an important moment, not just in this partnership, but among all of the responsible nations of the world. I have just returned from a historic trip to Europe and the Middle East, where I worked to strengthen our alliances, forge new friendships and unite all c ivilized peoples in the fight against terrorism. No civilized nation can tolerate violence or allow this wicked ideology to spread on its shores.
I addressed a summit of more than 50 Arab and Muslim leaders – a unique meeting in the history of nations, where key players in the regions agreed to stop supporting terrorism, whether it be financial, military or even moral support. The nation of Qatar unfortunately has historically been a funder of terrorism at a very high level. In the wake of that conference, nations came together and spoke to me about confronting Qatar over its behavior. Se we had a decision to make – do we take the easy road or do we finally take a hard but necessary action? We have to stop the funding of terrorism. I decided along with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, our great generals and military people the time had come to call on Qatar to end its funding. They have to end that funding and its extremist ideology in terms of funding. I want to call on all nations to immediately stop supporting terrorism. Stop teaching people to kill other people! Stop filing thei r mind with hate and intolerance! I won’t name other countries.
But we are not done solving the problem, but we will solve that problem. We have no choice. This is my great priority because it is my first duty as President to keep our people safe. Defeating ISIS and other terrorist organizations is something I emphasized all during my campaign and right up until the present. To do that, stop funding, stop teaching hate and stop the killing! For Qatar, we want you back among the unity of responsible nations. We ask Qatar and other nations in the region to do more and do it faster,
I want to thank Saudi Arabia and my friend, King Salman, and all countries who participated in that very historic summit. it was truly historic.There has never been anything like it before and perhaps there never will be again. Hopefully, it will be the beginning of the end of funding terrorism, it will therefore be the beginning of the end to terrorism. No more funding!
I also want to thank the Romanian people for everything they contribute to our common defense and the fight against the evil menace of terrorism. They have their own difficulties with it and they’ve come a long way and they’ve done a lot. Romania has been a valuable member of the coalition to defeat ISIS and it's the 4th largest contributor of troops in Afghanistan. There, 23 of your citizens have paid the ultimate price and America honors their sacrifice.
I want to recognize President Iohannis for his leadership in committing Romania this year to increase its Defense spending from 1.4 % of the GDP to over 2%. We hope our other NATO allies will follow Romania’s lead on meeting their financial obligations in paying their fair share for the cost of Defense. But I will say this: That because of our actions, money is starting to pour into NATO. The money is starting to pour in. Other countries are starting to realize that it’s time to pay up and they’re doing that. Very proud of that fact! As you know, I have been an advocate for strengthening our NATO alliance among member nations through greater responsibility and burden sharing and that is what is happening. Because together we can confront the common security challenges facing the world.
Mr. President, I want to applaud your courage and your courageous efforts in Romania to fight corruption and defend the rule of law! This work is necessary to create an environment where trade and commerce can flourish and where citizens can prosper. I look forward to working with you to deepen the ties of both commerce and culture between our two countries. Romanians have made contributions to the US and to the world. Very notable among them was Nobel prize laureate Elie Wiesel who was born in Romania and sadly passed away almost one year ago. And I understand that earlier this week, the American Jewish Committee presented President Iohannis with its very prestigious Light Unto the Nations Award for his work to further Holocaust remembrance and education in Romania. I join the AJC in saluting your leadership in this vital cause. The people of Romania have endured many, many hardships, but they have made a truly remarkable historical journey.
The future of Romania and Romania’s relationship with the US is very, very bright. President Iohannis, I thank you for your leadership and I thank you again for being here today. I look forward to strengthening our alliance with your country and our bonds with your people. The relationship has been good, but now it’s stronger than ever. Thank you very much!
President of Romania, Mr. Klaus Iohannis:
President Trump, thank you so much for the words you found for Romania, for the Romanian people and for me. Thank you very much for the invitation to be here today with you and thank you so much for arranging this nice weather in this place.
Mr President, I am very glad that we had such a good meeting. And this is due to your strong leadership and this is also due to our strong partnership. Obviously the fact that we celebrate 20 years of strategic partnership this year is important for both our nations and it is important to know, and that is what I want to underline, that this partnership with the United States of America shaped Romania as it is today. Romania, a solid democracy with a solid and sustainable economic growth. Romania, which stands together with the US troops in Afghanistan, we stand together in Iraq.
Mister President, this partnership contributed greatly to what Romania is today and this partnership was and is very important. And I think this partnership not only has to continue, this partnership has to become stronger, this partnership has to define our bilateral relations and this partnership has to contribute to solve so many problems.
President Trump, you mentioned terrorism. I am very glad that due to your strong leadership NATO decided to go against terrorism. Your involvement made so many nations conscious of the fact that we have to share the burden inside NATO. This is way Romania also decided - and if I am right – Romania is the first country during your mandate to step up to 2% of GDP for defense spending. Significant part of this defense spending is going into strategic acquisitions, and I hope, President Trump, that we find good ways together to make good use of this money.
Romania is very conscious of the fact that we stand on the Eastern Flank and we heavily rely on your partnership, President Trump, because we cannot stand there without the US, we cannot stand there alone. On the other hand, our partnership has huge opportunity to step up not only on security matters, but also on commercial, economic matters. And this is very important.
Romania is a member of the European Union and I think it’s in the best interest of you, Mr. President, to have a strong European Union as a partner. This is vital for all of us. Our relationship, the transatlantic link is vital. The transatlantic link is not about diplomacy, about policy, it is at the basis of our Western civilization and together we will make it stronger, together we will make it better.
NATO and the European Union do not have to compete against each other, they have to work together, they have to work in such a manner as to produce synergetic effects, to make NATO stronger, make Europe stronger, make the United States of America stronger. And this is what we decided, President Trump and I, to make our partnership stronger, better, more enduring and this will lead very soon to an enhanced economic exchange, to better commerce. And this is what we all decided and what we wish, because we are responsible, President Trump and I, not only for the security, we are responsible for the well being of our citizens and this is what we are decided to do.
Thank you so much, President Trump!
Journalist: This morning, on Twitter, you were referring to the testimony of James Comey vindicating you. But I wondered if you could tell us in person why you feel that his testimony vindicated you when it really boils down to this word against your word. And if you could also tell us do tapes exists of your conversations with him?
President of the United States of America, Donald Trump: Well, I will tell you about that maybe some other time in the near future. But in the meantime no collusion, no obstruction, he is a leaker, but we want to get back to running out great country. Jobs, trade deficits, we want them to disappear fast. North Korea-big problem, Middle East - big problem, so that is what I have been focused on but yesterday showed no collusion, no obstruction, we are doing very well. That was an excuse of the Democrats who lost an election that some people think that shouldn’t have lost, because it’s almost impossible for the Democrats to lose the Electoral College, as you know. You have to run up the whole East Coast to win everything as a Republican and that’s just as we did. So is just an excuse. But we were very, very happy and frankly James Comey confirmed a lot of what I’ve said and some of the things that he said just wer en’t true. Thank you very much.
Journalist: A couple of weeks ago, President Trump was in Brussels at a NATO meeting and not only was he encouraging NATO members to pay up the 2% required of GDP for national defense, but he was also saying that countries including yours who have not paid 2% in the past should make up for that difference. Do you think that is fair?
President of Romania, Mr. Klaus Iohannis: I was in Brussels and I met President Trump and I listened to his speech and I liked it, because, you see, NATO is based on values, but it is, ultimately, a military alliance, and you know, military spending are complicated and you need a lot of money, because NATO is the strongest alliance the Earth ever saw and we want to keep it that way. So we have to spend money for defense purposes and spending money means that if you are in an alliance everybody has to spend money. This is called burden sharing and I fully agree, Mr. President, to that. So of course some people liked this better, and some didn’t like it that much. But it’s a simple fact that we have to do this, not as a purpose in itself, we have to do this to stay strong, to be strong and to defend our nations.
President of the United States of America, Donald Trump: 100% correct, and, you know, one of the things I was referring to during that speech was yes, they haven’t paid what they should be paying now, but for many years they haven’t been paying, so I said do we ever go back paying the money for many, many years past. I know no President has ever asked that question, but I do. We are going to make NATO very strong, you need the money to make it strong, you can’t just do what we’ve been doing in the past. So I did say “yes, you haven’t paid this year. But what about past years, the many past years when you haven’t paid?” Perhaps you should pay some or all of that money back.
Journalist: I have a question for President Trump. On the matters of security, many of the countries of the Eastern Flank of NATO including Romania see Russia as a threat to the security in the region. Do you share this vision or do you think that the US should act under Article 5, if any of these countries will be under military aggression? Thank you very much.
President of the United States of America, Donald Trump: Well, I am committing the United States and have committed, but I am commiting the United States to Article 5 and certainly, we are there to protect and that is one of the reasons that I want people to make sure we have a very strong force by paying the kind of money necessary to have that force. But yes, absolutely I’d be committed to Article 5.
Journalist: Were there any discussions about the Visa Waiver program for Romania? Is there a time frame for including our country in this program? Thank you.
President of the United States of America, Donald Trump: We did not discuss it, but it would be something we will discuss.
President of Romania, Klaus Iohannis: I mentioned this issue and I also mentioned it during other meetings I had because this is important for us, it is important for Romanians who want to come to the United States. And you see, more and more people come, President Trump, from Romania to the United States. Some come as tourists, some come for business and those who come for business should be encouraged. So the matter of Visa Waiver would be probably important to discuss and we all hope that we will advance on this.
Journalist: Mister President, I want to get back to James Comey’s testimony. You suggested that he didn’t tell the truth in everything he said. He did say under oath that you said you hope the Flynn investigation…
President of the United States of America, Donald Trump: I didn’t say that.
Journalist: So he lied about that.
President of the United States of America, Donald Trump: Well, I didn’t say that. I mean I will tell you… I didn’t say that.
Journalist: And did he ask you to pledge…
President of the United States of America, Donald Trump: And it would be nothing wrong if I did say according to everybody that I read today but I did not say that.
Journalist: And did he asked for a pledge of loyalty from you?
President of the United States of America, Donald Trump: No, he did not.
Journalist: So he said those things under oath, would you be willing to speak under oath to give your version of…
President of the United States of America, Donald Trump: 100%. I hardly know the man, I’m not going to say I want you to pledge allegiance, who would do that? Who would ask a man to pledge allegiance under oath? Think of it. I hardly know the man. It doesn’t make the sense. No, I didn’t say that and I didn’t say the other.
Journalist: So if Robert Mueller wanted to speak with you about that…
President of the United States of America, Donald Trump: I would be glad to tell him exactly what I just told you.
Journalist: And it seemed to be hinting that there are recordings of those conversations.
President of the United States of America, Donald Trump: I’m not hinting anything, I will tell you about it over a very short period of time.
Journalist: When will you tell us?
President of the United States of America, Donald Trump: Over a very short period of time. You will be very disappointed when you hear the answer, no worry.
Journalist: President Iohannis, you are no stranger to Russian aggression. Vladimir Putin recently suggested that Romania could be in Russia crosshairs. How concerned should the world be about the Russian aggression in your region and how concerned should we be here in the US about what Russia tried to do in our election?
President of Romania, Klaus Iohannis: Everybody is concerned. But you see, being concerned should lead you to being prepared. So, in my opinion, we have to be very clear, very simple and very straightforward if we talk about Russia and with Russia. In my opinion, we need dialogue, but on the other hand we need what we all together decided in NATO: a strong deterrence. This combination, strong deterrence and dialogue should lead towards a solution which is feasible for every part.
Journalist: Mr. President Trump, you mentioned earlier an anti-corruption fight in Romania. It is a matter of high importance in our country, but we see now that the anti-corruption fight and the effort to consolidate the rule of law are sometimes undermined by some politicians. Part of what we can call ‘the Bucharest swamp’. Is your Administration going to support the anti-corruption fight in Romania and how can you do it? Thank you.
President of the United States of America, Donald Trump: Well, we support very strongly Romania and therefore obviously we do support that fight on anti-corruption. We will always support that and we support your President. We think he has done an outstanding job, very popular, very solid, working very hard, we know everything that is going on and he is going to win that fight, he is going to win that battle, but he has our support.
Journalist: Do you see the corruption in Romania as a problem for the US-Romania Partnership and for the American investors? Because we still have corruption in Romania despite this anti-corruption fight.
President of the United States of America, Donald Trump: Well you do, but I can tell you that there are many American investors right now going to Romania and investing. In fact, I was giving a chart just before our meeting and we have people going over to Romania and investing and they weren’t doing that a number of years ago. So that is a very big progress and there really are a lot of congratulations in store, but a lot of people are investing from our country to yours and people love from Romania the United States and they come here a lot and we are very proud of them. Thank you very much.
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